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« Thread started on: Apr 1st, 2010, 10:04am »

Quick list of FAQs to be answered in this thread.

1) Does DD&F8 Multi Player Work over the internet?
2) What do I do to play Multi Player?
2a) How do I host a Multi Player Game
3) I can't connect with another computer, nothing happens!
3a) Local Net
3b) Internet
4) I can connect but sometimes it freezes
4a) What can cause the game to crash before it loads multi-player?
5) Can I use custom cars and tracks?
6) I have DD&F8 1.0 can it connect to version 1.22?
7) I have DD&F8 1.22 can it connect to version 1.0?
8) I can join a game but I can't host?
9) What is a router?
10) What is a firewall?
11) What is a port?
12) Do we have to be no the same screen resolution?
13) Can Window 98 through to Vista/W7 play with each other?
14) What is IPX? Do we use it?
15) I have Microsoft Direct X 9, 10 or 11.. and the game uses Direct X8 will it still work?




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Re: Online FAQ
« Reply #1 on: Apr 1st, 2010, 10:06am »

1) Does DD&F8 Multi Player Work over the internet?

Answer: Yes
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Re: Online FAQ
« Reply #2 on: Apr 1st, 2010, 10:11am »

2) What do I do to play Multi Player?

Answer: To Join a Multi Player Game, you need to Select "MULTI PLAYER" from the main menu, located right below SINGLE PLAYER.

Then you are given 4 Options.

Join IPX,
Join TCP-IP
Host IPX,
Host TCP-IP


If you are joining a game and have Windows XP, Vista or W7, the only option selectable is JOIN TCP-IP.

If you have an Operating system OLDER then XP you have the options of using IPX but it is NOT recommended and is outdated. Use JOIN TCP-IP

Once you have JOINED you will go to a new screen.

If you have a LOCAL AREA NETWORK game LAN within your home, the host computer will appear in a selection menu. (See Hosting Below) . Click on the Yellow coloured host name and select JOIN at the bottom of the page. You can then SELECT a car and Set your status as READY to play. There is a selection menu for Connection speed. Modem, CABLE/DSL, ISDN. It hasn't mattered what you select from my experience and I select ISDN.

If you Want to JOIN a game over the INTERNET you need Type in the IP (Internet Provider) Address of the HOST computer. Your HOST computer will have to supply you with this information. In the top portion of the screen you will see an entry box with the words CONNECT beside it. Type in the IP address and hit the CONNECT button.

If all goes well, you should see a game link with the host computers players name on it. In my hosted games the word

madmax

will appear and you click on the name. The select your car and toggle the ready/not ready button. I have heard that Version 1.0 of the game does not have a toggle button. THere is also a ISDN, CABLE, DSL, Modem toggle. According to Auxillery power, they suggest you set it to ISDN. I don't know if Dialup is worth the trouble of trying to connect, although I could be 100% wrong. I am willing to test dialup anytime.

You are now ready to play the game when the host is ready to start the race.


My Understanding is that GAMESPY is now out of business
All Online Derbies will be done via ip...
December 2013

MULTIPLAYER GAMESPY: I have this it works.

Here is a Gamespy tutorial
http://bmelm.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi?board=schedule&action=display&num=1277152681



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Re: Online FAQ
« Reply #3 on: Apr 22nd, 2010, 09:42am »

2a) How do I Host a Multi Player Game

Answer: If you are hosting a LAN (local area network) game, you have to have your LAN established. This is all the computers tied to your wireless and ethernet cables. Once you have a LAN you can host a local game.

Select MultiPLayer From the main menu
Select HOST TCP-IP

As players join you will see them pop up on your screen. You can adjust all sorts of settings from the Number of AI players, to the Sandbag clock. etc.

As HOST computer, you select the track others play on.
As HOST computer you start the RACE by selecting RACE.

As HOST computer you can Exit the game and rehost again. All players will be disconnected and have to rejoin.

2b) How do I host a game over the Internet?

Answer: First you must KNOW what your IP address is. Your IP address will change unless you are one of the few that have a static IP address. If you don't have a static ip address you have to find out what it is.

If you are connected to a modem, the game will tell you what your IP address is when you select host. If you are behind a router, you can not rely on the game to provide you this information. It will give your LOCAL IP address and not your INTERNET IP address.

To get your INTERNET IP Address I suggest you use
www.whatismyip.org
or
www.ipchicken.com

These will tell you your CURRENT Ip address. Then get that information out to those who want to join your game. They need to type in YOUR IP address.

After you have done this, sit and wait for the players to arrive and then have fun.
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Re: Online FAQ
« Reply #4 on: Apr 22nd, 2010, 10:27am »

3) I can't connect with another computer, nothinghappens!

3a) Local Net Assuming that your LAN and Wireless are installed and working normally:

Answer: Make sure you have version 1.22 of the game and if not you will need to download the 1.22 patch found on this forum.

Your LAN connection for the game is being blocked. It Can be blocked by WINDOWS XP,VISTA, W7 FIREWALL/Security or by your ROUTER/WIRELESS box/software. You must set your settings to ALLOW DD&F8. Or an "Exception" For DD&F8.

Your Router must also be configured to allow the game to connect. It may ask you to ALLOW the APPLICATION, or Open/Portforward the ports the game uses. A blocked Lan Connection is normally stopped at the router. But it can also be blocked by the firewall.

A blocked LAN is normally easier to troubleshoot then a blocked internet. It is not infrequent to hear... my LAN can play multiplayer but I can play online.

Both the HOST and the JOINING Computer must be able to connect through the Router and Firewall. Thus if you had the Firewall allowing the game to play on the host, it still won't connect unless the Joining computers Firewall allows the signal through.


3b) Internet

Possible Answers:

The Host computer has given out an incorrect IP address or a LOCAL IP Address instead of his IP address.

The Host Computers FIREWALL IS BLOCKING THE INCOMING or OUTGOING CONNECTION.

The JOINING Computers FIREWALL IS BLOCKING THE INCOMING or OUTGOING CONNECTION.

The HOST Computers ROUTER IS BLOCKING THE INCOMING OR OUTGOING CONNECTION

THE JOINING COMPUTERS ROUTER IS BLOCKING THE INCOMING OR OUTGOING CONNECTION.

Or BOTH OF THE ABOVE OR ALL OF THE ABOVE.


In order to connect you will have to troubleshoot the cause. Bypass the router and go direct to the modem/cable connection.

Taking down the Firewall will not always allow the game to connect. The Firewall in XP leaves the "PORTS" the game requires to play closed. THink of PORTS as a DOOR and the DOOR IS CLOSED.

To play DD&F8 Online the bottomline is that these PORTS/DOORS need to be open. And they are closed by the ROUTER and The FIREWALL. In rare cases your IP PRovider has closed these ports and in rarer cases your modem has them closed. Don't go looking to deep.

Experience has show us that it is the FIREWALL and the ROUTER as the TWO biggest obstacles blocking the game from working.

DD&F8 Uses Microsoft Directx 8.
Ports for DirectX 8 are
2302 to 2400 TCP
2302 to 2400 UDP
6703 TCP
6703 UDP

Others have had success opening in addition to the above.
47624 TCP
47624 UDP

If asked by firewall or router these are inbound and outbound addresses.

Both the HOST and the JOINING Computer must have the ports open for the game to work.

The madmax hosted games remove one part of that equation. My computer is wideopen and easy to access. If you cannot connect it is your computer that has the information that DD&F8 requires blocked.

For more information follow this link

http://bmelm.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi?board=schedule&action=display&num=1247414464
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Re: Online FAQ
« Reply #5 on: Apr 27th, 2010, 3:47pm »

4) I can connect but sometimes it freezes

Answer: This is caused because only "some" of ports (doors) on your computer or the host computer that the games needs to playonline are open.

Many people mainly with Vista and W7 are able to connect by using the Exception Function in their firewall. Often there are enough open ports to allow the game to play. However, think of it like a doorway with everyone trying to go through the same door. Its first come first serve, so if your computer hits a door that is in use and the other ports are closed it has nowhere to go and freezes.

In the shortterm, you can log off exit the game and come back and it will work. Or you can spend a little extra effort and Open those ports the game needs.

Its not that hard in Vista or W7 to open a range of ports.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 16th, 2011, 05:29am »

5) Can I use custom cars and tracks?

5) Yes


6) I have DD&F8 1.0 can it connect to version 1.22?


A: No

7) I have DD&F8 1.22 can it connect to version 1.22?

A : yes
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:31am »

8) I can Join a Game but Can't Host

A: You can connect because your ports are opened and your firewall, router and anti virus is configured to let your computer program access the internet and the online derby. You can't host because either.. The needed incoming ports are not ALL Opened on your computer. Your router is set to block incoming programs. Your Anti Virus and/or Windows Firewall are set to block the incoming game/program
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:34am »

9) What is a router?

A: A router is often the wireless device hooked up to your Phone or Cable modem. It allows multiple computers to access the internet. If you have more then one computer using the internet you probably have a Router. Some new Modems have Routing capabilities and Wireless capabilities as well as built in Security that can block the game.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:35am »

10) What is a firewall?

A: A firewall is built into XP, Vista and Windows7. It is designed to protect your computer from incoming programs unless you allow them through the firewall. Some anti virus programs have their own firewalls as well. So you can have one or two firewalls on your computer.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:38am »

11) What is a port

A: A port is a gateway into your computer. Originally these ports were open in Windows98, Windows2000 and early versions of XP. When XP service pac2 came out it automatically closed the ports which the game uses. The ports the game uses are MicroSoft Direct X 8 Ports. Vista and Windows7 come with Closed ports. These ports must be opened to play the game. If you have W98 or W2000 the ports are automatically opened.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:41am »

12) Do we have to be on the same screen resolution?

A: No, you can be on any screen resolution setting. You can set the screen resolution from a menu inside the game. However, if you want more players and less lag, then you want to have your screen resolution at its lowest. 640*480. OTher resolutions slow down the game and create lag, causing some people to drop their connection or not hit cars.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:44am »

13) Can Window 98 through to Vista/W7 play with each other?

A: Yes
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:45am »

14) What is IPX? Do we use it?

A: An older internet protocal, useable only by W98 and W2000

A: NO Ignore it, it isn't accessible in most cases.
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 28th, 2011, 10:49am »

15) I have Microsoft Direct X 9, 10 or 11.. and the game uses Direct X8 will it still work?

A: Yes. Each newer version of Direct X supports the Older version of Direct X. It is backwards Compatible. XP , 98 an Windows2000 use up to direct X9 normally.

Vista and Windows 7 uses Direct X 10, 11 and up if it continues to be developed.....
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