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Windows 7 working
« Thread started on: Apr 7th, 2010, 06:20am »

I have a report in that Windows 7 is working with DD&F8. Good colours and everything.

I am awaiting feedback on the "Howto" as I don't have windows 7.

At this time, the W7 tester has his Local Area network working for Multi-player and is target fixated on getting it to work online.

I will post the HOWTO get DD&F8 Working on W7 as soon as I get the return Email.
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #1 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 06:41am »

Windows 7 Notes:

When installing the game, it must go into the Program X86Folder for 32bit software and not the General Program folder which is apparently for 64bit programs.

Run DDCFG.EXE that comes with the download and

select software

Run in Windows 98 Compatibility mode.

My tester has two Windows 7 Computers.

WITHIN THE GAME... you may have to set the video to 640*480 or 800*600 for it to load succesfully without crashing. His laptop only seems to work in 640*480 but his desktop is fine.

Hopefully I am not missing a step. These are chicken scratch notes from a phone conversation.




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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #2 on: Apr 9th, 2010, 12:50pm »

Email notes....

Further notes.... W7 Users ONLY

That's about it... just maybe mention that your first note is ONLY for those
with the 64bit Windows installed. If you are running 32bit version there is
only the main Program Files folder.

You must select SOFTWARE.

A good indication of whether its gonna work or not is when you select a car,
the car preview will not be solid, you can see all four wheels during
rotation, if it is not set up right.
If the car shows up solid as it should, chances are the game will work...
except in the case of my laptop where I had to put it in 640x480 mode.

I should probably point out that is on an OFFCIAL FULL Release of Windows
7... not the beta or release candidate.
I am running Home Premium on the laptop and Enterprise (same as Ultimate) on
my desktop.... both with ALL the most recent updates.
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #3 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 2:37pm »

Sent via Lexcorp

Okay, it's late but I'll see what I can pump out to help you guys out.
As madmax may have stated, I have DDF8 v1.0 (and v1.22 DEMO) running, quite well, in both Windows 7 Enterprise 32bit with an ATI Graphics Card AND Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with an Intel Integrated HD Graphics Card.
Although I CAN play multiplayer on my home LAN, I have online working as well..

On to the install... i'll write this to give you the best possible chance of succeeding.


1. Start as fresh as possible.


Uninstall all aspects of the game and reverse any tricks you may have already tried

Delete any and all remaining folders the uninstall left behind

Reset your display settings and video card settings to their defaults or whatever you would normally use

Restart Your Computer


2. Update Everything


Update with Windows/Microsoft Update

Update your graphics drivers

Restart Your Computer


3. Install/Extract


Depending on the version you are trying, either Install or AutoExtract the required program files.

*64bit users MUST reset the default install directory to the 32bit Program Files folder. Typically C:\Program Files (x86)\Auxiliary Power

Restart Your Computer


4. Set Compatibility


Navigate to the install directory

Right click on DemoDerby.exe (or what ever the program name may be) and select Properties

Select the Compatibility tab at the top of the page

Put a checkmark in the box beside Run this program in compatibility mode for:

From the drop down list, select Windows 98 / Windows Me
(Other modes may work but I found Win98/WinME to be the most stable between the two computers. Your hardware may dictate otherwise so feel free to try others for stability. Win 2000 and Win XP (SP2) would be likely candidates.)


5. Configure Video


From the install directory, run (double-click) the DDCfg.exe file

Click on the circle beside Software to select it

Click OK

CONFIRM that it worked by opening the config.ini file in notepad
It should look similar to this:

[Components]
SeasonDir="GameData"
SoundDir="Sounds"
OptionsDir="Options"
ReplayDir="VCR"
EventsDir="Events"
SystemRating=3
WindowedMode=0
VideoDriver="Software"
UseA3D=0
UseEAX=0

[Install]
InstallFrom=""
InstallTo=""

[Version]
Version=1.0


Restart Your Computer


6. Set Up the Game


If you don't have Shortcut to the game on your Desktop, you can create one by going to the install folder, right click on DemoDerby.exe, highlight Send to and select Desktop (create shortcut)

Run the game from Desktop or install folder

Wait for it to flash and flicker through a few screens and your Desktop, then either create a player or just choose one and click OK

Go to Options

This brings you to the Video configuration screen
For testing purposes, you'll want to set the Resolution to 640x480 and the Graphic Detail to Low

When done, click Back... you may then wish to visit the Control screen to set up your user controls.

When ready, I suggest to exit all the way out of the program and restart it before attempting to play a game.


7. Notes


A good indication of whether its gonna work or not is when you select a car, the car preview will not be solid, you can see all four wheels during rotation, if it is not set up right.
If the car shows up solid as it should, chances are the game will work.

If you have trouble, make sure the config.ini file is still as shown above, try a different compatibility mode and in some cases, you may want to reduce your computer's desktop Color Depth to Medium (16bit).

Once you have it running consistently, you can try increasing the the Resolution and/or Graphics Detail.

Even once you get it "Stable", the game by nature tends to crash, hang or flicker every so often. Especially during Multiplayer.


***If you follow the above and the game STILL crashes after you select your car (your car was not solid, you could see all 4 wheels), add in the following step***

2b. DirectX 8

Download DirectX 8.1 for Windows 2000 from the following link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=7f54ebd3-00d1-47bc-81db-3157fba4c3a7

Run the downloaded file, follow onscreen instructions.

Windows 7 will probably show you a pop-up dialogue box after install that says there was an issue with the install, just select 'This Program Installed Correctly'.

Restart Your Computer


I hope this helps but truth is there are an infinite number of Hardware/Software combinations out there that may help or hinder the install and playing of this game.
If you followed the steps to no avail, write here or PM me and I can try some basic troubleshooting by cross-referencing My Own computer setup (Graphics adapter properties, Display Options, Installed Codecs, etc).
Good luck! I hope more of you get it running so there can be more of us trying to get it running ONLINE!
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #4 on: Apr 15th, 2010, 2:14pm »

DD&F8 v1.22 WORKS ONLINE!
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #5 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 4:59pm »

i got it working on my moms laptop but i go to join a game it says error
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #6 on: Apr 24th, 2010, 08:42am »

on Apr 23rd, 2010, 4:59pm, showstopper wrote:
i got it working on my moms laptop but i go to join a game it says error


I am assuming that you are referring to Multi-Player mode.

Error is the Firewall not allowing the DD&F8 game to play. Its not a port error. Usually a prompt appears asking if it wants to allow this program. See getting W7 to work online in the Online threads.

The error could also be because the internet connection of the laptop was NOT enabled. Thus you didn't have internet connected.

I have forwarded this thread to Lexcorp if there is anything he can add as I don't have W7
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #7 on: Apr 24th, 2010, 2:12pm »

Is DD&F8 giving you the error or Windows 7?

If it's DD&F8, i have not seen this error but I would suspect madmax is right, ensure you have a working internet connection and that DD&F8 is "ALLOWED" through Windows firewall.

If it's a Windows error, you'll need to post the error msg so someone can help you troubleshoot.

**Also, make sure you are using Version 1.22**
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #8 on: Apr 24th, 2010, 2:30pm »

on Apr 24th, 2010, 2:12pm, lexcorps104 wrote:
Is DD&F8 giving you the error or Windows 7?

If it's DD&F8, i have not seen this error but I would suspect madmax is right, ensure you have a working internet connection and that DD&F8 is "ALLOWED" through Windows firewall.

If it's a Windows error, you'll need to post the error msg so someone can help you troubleshoot.

**Also, make sure you are using Version 1.22**
yes multi player it will let me host but when i click join game it said error
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #9 on: Apr 25th, 2010, 11:09am »

on Apr 24th, 2010, 2:30pm, showstopper wrote:
yes multi player it will let me host but when i click join game it said error

Definitely the Firewall or No Internet Connection. The game will always let you pick host even if not connected to the internet. To "JOIN" means you are sending out a connection string, and that string is blocked.
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #10 on: Jul 15th, 2010, 10:50am »

Anyone ran into this B4 with either VIsta or W7?

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it wnt launce the game this is wat its says error mss32.dll
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #11 on: Feb 25th, 2011, 4:01pm »

On behalf on another Windows & user.

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Actually I have a question for ya, I'm playing the game on my new computer with windows 7 and in order to play I have to set the resolution really low, if I don't it just crashes. Just wondering if there is a way to change that. The picture is so grainy, and the smoke and steam are not visible, and some of the paint jobs are all screwed up.


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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #12 on: Feb 27th, 2011, 10:55am »

I have to run my laptop on the lowest resolution setting also.

Others with W7 on desktop models can run on the next up resolution setting. Still not the best, but better.

As far as I know there isnt any way around this



The lack of smoke/dust and other effects (as well as mixed up paint jobs on cars with paint jobs different than 256x256) is a result of running the game on Software mode. There isnt any way around this either

The game works best on the Direct 3dx setting. The best I understand Direct 3dx runs off a different part of the computer on Vista and W7 operating systems. Which is why it crashes when you select it.
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #13 on: Mar 6th, 2011, 11:23am »

That was my question that madmax posted for me. I can't even bump it up one resolution, it still crashes. O well, I'll just deal with it, at least I can still play it.
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Re: Windows 7 working
« Reply #14 on: Mar 6th, 2011, 12:01pm »


I saw this answer to another game. It might not hurt to try it.



Go to the Program and ......

Click Properties
Click the Compatibility tab at the top
Check the 'Run this program in compatibilty mode for:' box then select Windows 2000 or XP
Check the 'Run this program as an administrator' box at the bottom
Click apply. Then Click Show Settings For All Users
Check the 'Run this program in compatibilty mode for:' box then select Windows 2000 or XP
Check the 'Run this program as an administrator' box at the bottom
Click apply.
Click Ok then Ok again
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